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Mossad-Kurds Ties Threaten U.S. Interests in Iraq

PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:00 pm

The secret long standing ties between Iraq's Kurds and Israel, which were resumed after the former leader Saddam Hussein was ousted by the U.S.-led occupation, came to a crushing end in the past few months, under pressure from Washington.

After Jalal Talabani was nominated to the presidency of the Republic of Iraq in spring 2005, "a conflict of interest appeared between the two allies", said an expert in Middle East safety. "In order not to be criticized by the Shiites and the Sunnis, the new Head of the State Talabani could not allow the further development of a relationship that is condemned by the immense majority of the Iraqis. The Kurdish two-sided-game was stopped." Which forced some of the Israeli agents leave the north of Iraq. Only hundred of them still remain, the expert suggests, adding that Israeli businessmen practically only act through Kurdish or Jordanian intermediaries.

However, this helped tighten the partnership between Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, and the Kurdish leadership, who combined their effort in thirty years struggle against the nationalist regime of Baghdad. Israel has long sought to contain the Iranian influence over Iraq through backing the Kurds' federal aspirations. "After the hostilities, the Israelis, anxious to see thousands of so-called Iranian pilgrims entering Iraq, tried in vain to convince the Americans to close the border between Iran and Iraq", said Patrick Clawson, deputy manager of the American research center "The Washington Institute for Near East Policy". But the United States, willing to preserve their relationship with their Iraqi Shiites allies, rejected the Israeli demands.

Thus, Israel decided to act on its own. The Israeli government deployed instructors, often disguised as businessmen in Erbil and Souleymanieh, to improve the training of the peshmerga, the Kurdish militiamen. According to French military estimates, not less than 1,200 agents either from Mossad or from the Israeli military intelligence operated in Kurdistan earlier in 2004, trying to set up strong Kurdish commandos to counter Iraq's Shiites in the South. In return, Massoud Barzani, of the Democratic Party of Kurdistan, announced that having relation with Israel "is not a crime since the majority of the Arab countries maintain the relationship" with the Jewish State.

Kurdistan' mountains have always been filled with spies. "The presence of many people in this area, autonomous since 1991, makes it possible to the Israelis to recruit agents which will infiltrate other organizations", said the former head of a European intelligence service. But today, the Kurds' keenness to infiltrate the Iraqi army, directed by one of their own, serves the Israeli interests.

Israel has reinforced its monitoring on Iran and Syria, its two great enemies in the Middle East, thanks to its alliance with the Kurdish community in Iraq.

But, "the Americans do not agree any more with the Israeli plans", said an Israeli sent to Erbil under cover of being a student.

"We've received strong pressure from Washington to stop our operations with the Kurds", he added, noting that the U.S. doesn't want this presence that endangers its interests.

http://www.aljazeera.com

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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:02 pm

Fuck Al Jazeera, they didn't even publish my comment... while the accept all other comments. Maybe because mine MADE sense..
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:40 pm

Vladimir wrote:Fuck Al Jazeera, they didn't even publish my comment... while the accept all other comments. Maybe because mine MADE sense..



FUCK AL JAZEERA GOOD! :roll:

It's good for nothing... Rumtaya - when did you start believing what EVIL ISLAM says...? :?
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:32 pm

The source of Al Jazeera is Le Figaro.. very strange or?
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:05 am

Bof Le figaro is a good newsapaper concerning international news...
http://istanbuldakitom.blogspot.com/

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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:12 am

I never do trust what Al Jazeera says lool

i just wanted to share the lies of arabs with you.



by the way Islam havent something to do with this topic.

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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:51 am

tomjez wrote:Bof Le figaro is a good newsapaper concerning international news...
Can you find the article en Francais or?
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:13 am

Where did you see that Figaro was the source?? :?
http://istanbuldakitom.blogspot.com/

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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:17 am

"We've received strong pressure from Washington to stop our operations with the Kurds", he added, noting that the U.S. doesn’t want this presence that endangers its interests.

Source: Lefigaro.fr

Our Assyrian friend forgot something..

Al Jazeera article
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: Piling » Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:28 pm

Here is the French paper from Le Figaro :

http://www.institutkurde.org/index.php? ... m=&ucat=1&
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:42 pm

What do you think Piling?
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: Rumtaya » Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:47 pm

what does the french text say the same like i did post.

or does it suppourt the work betwen kurds and jews?????

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PostAuthor: tomjez » Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:07 pm

French article says the same things (its a translation)

Actually it is not surprising
http://istanbuldakitom.blogspot.com/

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PostAuthor: Piling » Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:17 pm

I think that a narrow colaboration between Israël and Kurdistan is a good thing : Israël needs Kurds to protect their Eastern borders and Kurds need a serious military and political support against Turks (even if they are official allies and especialy because of that). Of course US are against it, but it is not so important. American won't stay for ever in Iraq and Kurdistan and when they leave, both countries should organize their own defence according to their personnal intetests, in spite of what Arabian League or US like or not.

I think of planes, for example. Kurds are very good fighters but they cruelly lack of military aviation, when they face Turks or Arabs. If Israël could teach good Kurdish pilots it could be a good thing :wink:

So for the moment, US say "STOP" and Israël mutters "ok ok" but Mossad probably tries to be less visible in Kurdistan, that's all.
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PostAuthor: tomjez » Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:05 am

I agree that this collaboration is a good thing. Israel understood that Kurds are the only people around who are not antisemit..
http://istanbuldakitom.blogspot.com/

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