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U.S. decides Turkey is no longer a reliable Ally

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:40 pm
Author: heval
I hope I am not repeating a post but I just read this and found it interesting.



Good news anyone?




U.S. military decides Turkey no longer reliable ally
2/15/2006 Insight
Issue Date: January 16-22, 2006, Posted On: 1/16/2006

The U.S. military is quietly preparing to withdraw its forces from Turkey.

Government sources said the military and Defense Department have concluded that Turkey is no longer a reliable military ally. The sources said that by 2008 the United States would have no more than a token military presence in Turkey.

"For two years, the Pentagon waited for a turnaround in Turkey," a source said. "That hasn't happened and the Pentagon will be looking elsewhere for basing and deployment."

The Bush administration was deeply disappointed by Ankara's refusal to host U.S. troops in 2003 as part of plans to form a northern front against the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq. Last year, despite numerous pledges, Ankara blocked another U.S. effort to expand its military presence and use of Turkish military installations.

As a result, the Pentagon has been changing its deployment in Turkey and ended incentives for U.S. soldiers to be based in that country, which is also a member of NATO. The Pentagon has also terminated Turkey's certification as an area in direct support of the U.S. military operation in Iraq.

On Dec. 31, the Pentagon ended most incentives for U.S. soldiers to be based in Turkey, an area deemed as high risk amid rising anti-American sentiment during the war in Iraq. The Pentagon ended the exemption of U.S. soldiers from federal taxes in an arrangement known as combat zone tax exclusion.

U.S. soldiers in Turkey began receiving this benefit in January 2003 in anticipation of the war in Iraq. But in a review in late 2005, U.S. European Command determined that Turkey no longer fulfilled combat zone requirements.

Officials said the U.S. military will continue to retain a token presence in Turkey, particularly in the air force base at Incirlik. Those serving in Turkey would obtain the imminent danger pay benefit, which amounts to another $225 a month.

The Pentagon envisions a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq, particularly in the autonomous Kurdish zone in the north. The United States has built several military bases and airports in the north, which could serve as a launching pad for reconnaissance or attack missions against neighboring Iran.

Source: Insight.com
http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaMa ... rkey_0.htm

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:46 pm
Author: Piling
http://northerniraq.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222

You repeat but I agree with you, it is a good new :)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:47 pm
Author: zurderer
just because of an anti-american film?

That morons should understand, we cannot help them to destroy every neighbor country of us. If they want to attack iran, they should do it themself.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:49 pm
Author: Piling
we cannot help them to destroy every neighbor country of us


That's right you are surely a bit tired after having destroyed Northern Kurdistan :twisted:

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:52 pm
Author: zurderer
well Infact, our fasist are ready for destroy southern kurdistan :twisted:

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:53 pm
Author: Piling
But you can't :twisted:

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:55 pm
Author: zurderer
So I hope, I dont know what will happen when USA retreated.

what do you think? I dont think we should wait for a retreat.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:03 pm
Author: Piling
I don't know. If US are clever (for their own interest I mean) they would not withdraw from Turkey and implant military basis in Kurdistan in the same time.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:08 pm
Author: zurderer
She need turkey, at least neutrality of Turkey. or she cannot resist russia-iran-turkey alliance.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:16 pm
Author: Piling
Yeah but if Turkey enter in UE it could not ally with Iran. In fact, Turkey should decide : being a ME state or European. In the same way, if UE refuse Turkey, it push it in Russia's camp. (Iran, and Turkey could not be real allies ,they dislike too much each other since the beginning of times).

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:26 pm
Author: zurderer
I dont know what are you talking, but remember our borders with iran have longer history than USA. or do you think, we will began safavid-ottoman wars again?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:49 pm
Author: Piling
well if we consider all the history Anatolia was often in war with Iran (and Mesopotamia a battleground) : Greek/medes, Roman/Parthian, Byzantines/Sassanid then Islam, Ottoman/Iran.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:52 pm
Author: zurderer
Yeah but borders are decided at 1693 or something like that.

Infact russian-iranian war are not less than russian-ottoman or ottoman-safavid war.

By the way, Persian have some problems with azeris :wink: I dont think they will waste their time for us.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:56 pm
Author: Piling
Persians have trouble with all their nations within their empire, the bad faith of all chauvinist state :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:57 pm
Author: zurderer
Err I mean azerbeyjan azeris not iranian azeris. Infact they managed their jobs better than Turkey.

Their main problems were with kurds, because of sunni-shia conflict.