My thoughts of the day

[Piling]

Students who apply for scholarship, print and send all the papers they have written on websites, all the websites where they are mentioned, all the poems they have written but forgot to send their diploma and marks…

[Feyli_kord]

I wonder how you can say you support these animals:

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[Piling]

Did I say anywhere that I was pro al Qaeda ? Did you smoke your carpet ?

[Feyli_kord]

Did I say anywhere that I was pro al Qaeda ? Did you smoke your carpet ?

I remember you said you supported FSA, Half of FSA is composed of al-qaeda and other salafists, and you said your pro-eu. Almost all mainstream EU states+ USA have pledged support to FSA and have given FSA grants. And all governing goverments in europeans states are Pro-Eu. None of this is reported in mainstream western media of course. This news article was done by a russian news outlet.

No need for racist insults, this is forum is not racist after all, right?

[Piling]

Another time you make a porridge with different facts. Your brain should be a terrible melting-pot…

I never supported FSA, I don't care of them. I criticized the alliance of PKK and Baath and also the crimes of PKK against KNC.

Concerning UE I am pro UE for domestic affairs, not for their foreign policy which is zero : there is no Foreign policy from UE, these countries are not able to talk with one voice.

[Feyli_kord]

Another time you make a porridge with different facts. Your brain should be a terrible melting-pot…

I never supported FSA, I don't care of them. I criticized the alliance of PKK and Baath and also the crimes of PKK against KNC.

I'm sure you did. I don't forget this stuff.

Concerning UE I am pro UE for domestic affairs, not for their foreign policy which is zero : there is no Foreign policy from UE, these countries are not able to talk with one voice.

Right, that's why EU failed to renew their arms embargo:

EU Votes to lift weapons embargo
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.as ... el=5547305

Britain considering arming syrian rebels(FSA)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -says.html

Britain ready to arm rebels: http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/UK-rea ... ail-315069


France trains Syrian rebels:

http://www.jpost.com/Special-Reports5/R ... els-317049

France sends syrian rebels anti aircraft guns:

http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/16147

France funding syrian rebels to oust assad:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/d ... ian-rebels

France, Belgium and Saudi arabia arms Syrian rebels with guns:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/ ... gdhP23b_t0

France vows to arm rebels despite embargo:

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USA backs up EU shipments: http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=5547305">http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.as ... el=5547305

Britain considering arming syrian rebels(FSA)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -says.html

Britain ready to arm rebels: http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/UK-rea ... ail-315069


France trains Syrian rebels:

http://www.jpost.com/Special-Reports5/R ... els-317049

France sends syrian rebels anti aircraft guns:

http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/16147

France funding syrian rebels to oust assad:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/d ... ian-rebels

France, Belgium and Saudi arabia arms Syrian rebels with guns:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/ ... gdhP23b_t0

France vows to arm rebels despite embargo:

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USA backs up EU shipments:

Sweden gave 10 million dollars to FSA.

[Piling]

If UE would have given weapons enough to FSA (as Russia and Iran did it to Baath) Al Qaeda would not be so strong now. If USA and UE did intervene at the beginning, Jihadists would not be so strong now. The more Syria's friends waited, the more they open the path for al Qaeda.

And I remind you that you are the one who supports a general brotherhood with all Middle Eastern people, against Kurdish nation state : these bastards are your dear brothers, not mine.

[Feyli_kord]

If UE would have given weapons enough to FSA (as Russia and Iran did it to Baath) Al Qaeda would not be so strong now. If USA and UE did intervene at the beginning, Jihadists would not be so strong now. The more Syria's friends waited, the more they open the path for al Qaeda.

That's not true. Because those elements existed in teh first place. Also saudi arabia and the gulf states quickly moved in to support. Even if assasd would be overthrown quickly, salafists would still surface, like the brother of islam and morsi in egypt.

And I remind you that you are the one who supports a general brotherhood with all Middle Eastern people, against Kurdish nation state : these bastards are your dear brothers, not mine.

Nope, I said i supported peace and cooperation between middle-eastern nations, and perhaps a federation in the future, to protect against war and corruption. I never argued against the case of a kurdish state.

You on the other hand just mock that. Afterall you're the privileged white french first class citizen of europe, a stable and prosperous region. War doesn't affect you and you don't care about what happens in the middle-east. Which is what i find funny about you writing or showing remote interest in kurds/kurdistan or middle-east. Your life is too detached from anything to do with the middle-east or middle-easterners. Your sort are just weird.

[Piling]

War doesn't affect you

Nor you : You stay in safe UE and did not go to fight in Syria as I guess ? You just live the comfortable life of a European citizen student and did not go to fight in the mountains so what you do is to spit in the soup you eat but you have no right to talk on the name of Kurds from the country : for them you are just a Westerner.

[Feyli_kord]

Nor you : You stay in safe UE and did not go to fight in Syria as I guess ? You just live the comfortable life of a European citizen student and did not go to fight in the mountains so what you do is to spit in the soup you eat but you have no right to talk on the name of Kurds from the country : for them you are just a Westerner.

I don't live a comfortable life, but true I don't have to face prosecution and war like my parents and kurds. I'm a kurd and of muslim background, hence cannot be westerner, and kurds in kurdistan don't view me as westerner, certaintly we're not viewed by white westerners as a westerners. The biggest fear of europeans today, is that non-western muslims descendants like me will take over europe from westerners , and alot of them don't want us here. How many voted for FN in the last election in your country? 20%? 25%? That's alot of people. We don't spit in anyones soup, certainly not your soup, if were spitting in your soup, you'd know. kurds don't spit in your soup, they live as mostly poor immigrants in europe. Salafists that the french government allow saudi arabia to export to france, spit in your soup. I have the right to my opinions and my grievances. If you don't like them, thats your problem.

I have the right to speak for kurds. Because I'm kurdish and I have kurdish and middle-easterners best interests at heart. The only people you can speak for is Europeans and French.

[Piling]

I don't even speak for Europeans or for French, just for myself and you should better do the same : because you are a Kurds living in Western or a European from Kurdish origins, but not all the Kurds and many of them don't share much things with you. They won't give you any right to do that.

Speaking for all a nation is only for kings or megalomaniac.

[Anthea]

I don't even speak for Europeans or for French, just for myself and you should better do the same : because you are a Kurds living in Western or a European from Kurdish origins, but not all the Kurds and many of them don't share much things with you. They won't give you any right to do that.

Speaking for all a nation is only for kings or megalomaniac.

I guess that makes Ocalan a megalomaniac

[Feyli_kord]

I don't even speak for Europeans or for French, just for myself and you should better do the same : because you are a Kurds living in Western or a European from Kurdish origins, but not all the Kurds and many of them don't share much things with you. They won't give you any right to do that.

Speaking for all a nation is only for kings or megalomaniac.

That's a very western way of thinking. I also like how you entirely ignored the fact that i and kurds collectively are not seen as europeans. I see it differently and most easterners i know see it differently. The individual only matters within the group, it's a micro-definition. But outside of the group your individuality doesn't matter. Because people will always identify you with the group they associate you with, not by your individuality. Because they reserve individuality to people who they can only distinguish by their individual traits. When people from a different background, interact with me, they interact with me as a kurd, not as a individual. Look at the way you talk yourself about kurds and the way you talk to me and others in this forum. Your entire career is based on studying the broad differences of kurds to westerners. And in this context your interacting with me as a kurd and i'm interacting with you as a french person.

I never claimed to represent all kurds, but the overwhelming majority share similar goals as me, hence my representation of them is fairly accurate for the majority of kurds. They want to create a kurdish state and live in peace with their neighbours. Not talking about how culture, language, religion, origin and how those lead us to experience the world, binds us together, whether we live in europe or in kurdistan or other parts of the world. This a connection you won't have with middle-easterners/kurds, and i will not have with white europeans/french people like yourself. No matter if i meet a kurd who lives in antartica or one who lives in kurdistan. I'll still broadly have more in common with them, than you do, and equally i will never share the same commonality with french/white european.

[Anthea]

I personally believe that Piling - who is as we all know a non-Kurd - has far more in common with the Kurds in Kurdistan than Kurds from Turkey now living in England have - they refuse to learn Kurdish - teach their children TURKISH - have TUTKISH TV on 24/7 - and actually tell non-Kurdish people that they are TURKISH

Piling on the other hand - rejoices in the Kurdish culture - has learnt the language - has visited Kurdistan many times and wishes to live there - probably feels a great deal more Kurdish than French

[Feyli_kord]

I personally believe that Piling - who is as we all know a non-Kurd - has far more in common with the Kurds in Kurdistan than Kurds from Turkey now living in England have - they refuse to learn Kurdish - teach their children TURKISH - have TUTKISH TV on 24/7 - and actually tell non-Kurdish people that they are TURKISH

Piling on the other hand - rejoices in the Kurdish culture - has learnt the language - has visited Kurdistan many times and wishes to live there - probably feels a great deal more Kurdish than French

That doesn't make her kurdish lol. You can't become kurdish. Just like i can't become a white european or a westerner.