hi! helen frm uk!can sum1 pls giv advice on topic thx

[Kulka]

i am totally far from conservative - ultra or not. i also wasnt "dumped" by anyone - whatever you mean by this - i have my opinion about many aspects of kurdish culture - not only positive opinion, which i share with Kurds, but only with Kurds. kurdish culture is like that - and i dont see any reason to write nice lies only to make someone feel comfortable. No matter what - i will always defend what i love. sorry if it doesnt suit someone.
i will never change my religion to muslim (or to anything else) because of BOYFRIEND! i completly dont understand people who doing that. i will never let my boyfriend to force me to cover my head, but i would do that from myself if i would go to his muslim mothers house - because of respect which i would have. do you get what i mean, kak Baris?
even if i dont agree with some things in kurdish culture - i still respect it - for many reason which are not ethnically based. and believe me - i really dont give a little penny about what you think of my ETHNICITY. for me is enough that i - myslef - know who i am and nobody has the right to tell me who i am and who i am not, specially someone who is ethnically not Kurd as well, basha kak Baris?
and dont expect that i will tell lies on that forum - specially on that forum which is under kurdish flag - the flag that many people lost their lives for - so i will not say :"oh, poor girl, this awful Kurd use her and broke her heart, poor innocent girl..." - i will not say that, coz i am not going to lie. if any girl want to have sex with handsome kurdish boys - no problem, go on, but do not cry after that.
thats all

[Barış]

i am totally far from conservative - ultra or not. i also wasnt "dumped" by anyone - whatever you mean by this - i have my opinion about many aspects of kurdish culture - not only positive opinion, which i share with Kurds, but only with Kurds. kurdish culture is like that - and i dont see any reason to write nice lies only to make someone feel comfortable. No matter what - i will always defend what i love. sorry if it doesnt suit someone.
i will never change my religion to muslim (or to anything else) because of BOYFRIEND! i completly dont understand people who doing that. i will never let my boyfriend to force me to cover my head, but i would do that from myself if i would go to his muslim mothers house - because of respect which i would have. do you get what i mean, kak Baris?
even if i dont agree with some things in kurdish culture - i still respect it - for many reason which are not ethnically based. and believe me - i really dont give a little penny about what you think of my ETHNICITY. for me is enough that i - myslef - know who i am and nobody has the right to tell me who i am and who i am not, specially someone who is ethnically not Kurd as well, basha kak Baris?
and dont expect that i will tell lies on that forum - specially on that forum which is under kurdish flag - the flag that many people lost their lives for - so i will not say :"oh, poor girl, this awful Kurd use her and broke her heart, poor innocent girl..." - i will not say that, coz i am not going to lie. if any girl want to have sex with handsome kurdish boys - no problem, go on, but do not cry after that.
thats all

Realy? I actualy wasn't saying that you're ''Ultra-Conservative'', but that your Ex was. I think that you're a Free-Thinker.

So ya only share with Kurds...? Does that mean I'm excluded because I so happen to be Türkic?

Well, this following quote posted from ya in your own Topic in ''Introduce Yourself'' here will explain why I thought otherwise:

''chony bashy kak Dyaoko - nice to see you here again.

chony bashy kak Baris - you havent been here for few days, but i hope you will be back soon.

i dont know if i should write it here - but i always trust to my people and i always share everything - good and bad things, happiness and problems.
if you read my posts - you know that i was with someone, but it finished. my feelings not finished, but doesnt matter. this boy sometimes sends me messages or calling me - asking if i am ok. i dont know why. he said he will always help me with anything i need, he said he will always be my friend and he want to have contact with me as a friend - but it was all lie. you know why? coz yesterday when i send him messages and ask - as a friend - to come for cup of tea next week, coz its my birthday - he replied he cant come. so what does it mean - help and friendship - if he even dont want to come for my birthday. why kurd behave like that? its shame. and for me its very hurting. you dont know how much.
i dont know how to live without him, i cant''

Yea, I do understand your veiws about ''respect'', as my Azeri Fiancée has Conservative Parents...

So are ya back together with your boyfriend from Erbil/Hewler? If so, my bad...

[Kulka]

you know what Baris? i thought you are different person. you dont deserve to explain anything to you, but i will. this boy whom we are talking about - is the last person who is conservative - if i am not conservative - he is much less than me. his way of life is completly free, independent and even out of many kurdish standards. so your way of thinking that i have any of my opinions because anyone (specially "boyfriend") washed my brain is completly stupid. and your ideas about the person who you completly dont know are totally wrong - i dont understand how can you make statements about someone whom you dont know? Thats what you wrote: "I actualy was'nt saying that you're ''Ultra-Conservative'', but that your Ex was" - excuse me, do you know him to say something like that?
second - yes, some things i share only with Kurds - if you like it or not - i have the right to share whatever i want with whoever i want and dont share if i dont want - that is calling "freedom".
my text that you put here - i dont understand for what reason - i wrote few months ago - yes, i was with him, but not in the way you think. and he told me some lies - it happenes. thats true that i have feelings for him - and i am not ashamed of that. my feelings was genuine, so i dont know what is wrong with that. I got hurted, but you know first of all why? i didnt expect him to be with me - if you believe it or not - i didnt expect anything from him and he knew that, coz i told him, that i cant make him happy (not becuse i was married before, or i have kids, coz i dont) , thats why i accepted the fact that one day we will be far away from each other. and because i didint expect anything from him, he had no reason to tell me lies - but he did and it wasnt ok. and also - it wasnt my fault. i accepted his choice not to spend life with me and i dont blame him for that. i only blame him that he has no respect for himself (for his kurdishness). if you read my text at the end you should understand what i wrote - that it hurts me that he didnt behave like Kurd.
and dont compare these two situations - coz its a big difference. a lot of differences, that one of them is that he WASNT my boyfriend. i loved him, but it was my privat feeling, when he decided to go away - i didnt try to stop him, i didnt call him or do anything like that.
and i must dissapoint you again - his parents are also not conservative. i talked with his mother, she is great and lovely lady, very kind and very nice. we saw each other over webcam only, the same as some of his cousins and brother in Kurdistan, but i also know a lot of his family members personally, those who are here in england.

so good luck with your malicious talking with me - try your best, maybe you win, who knows?
but one thing i know for sure after your post today (specially after last sentence - by the way, i repeat again - he is not and never been my BOYFRIEND - do you understand that?) - i know for sure that i will never call you "Kak Baris" any more.

[Barış]

you know what Baris? i thought you are different person. you dont deserve to explain anything to you, but i will. this boy whom we are talking about - is the last person who is conservative - if i am not conservative - he is much less than me. his way of life is completly free, independent and even out of many kurdish standards. so your way of thinking that i have any of my opinions because anyone (specially "boyfriend") washed my brain is completly stupid. and your ideas about the person who you completly dont know are totally wrong - i dont understand how can you make statements about someone whom you dont know? Thats what you wrote: "I actualy was'nt saying that you're ''Ultra-Conservative'', but that your Ex was" - excuse me, do you know him to say something like that?
second - yes, some things i share only with Kurds - if you like it or not - i have the right to share whatever i want with whoever i want and dont share if i dont want - that is calling "freedom".
my text that you put here - i dont understand for what reason - i wrote few months ago - yes, i was with him, but not in the way you think. and he told me some lies - it happenes. thats true that i have feelings for him - and i am not ashamed of that. my feelings was genuine, so i dont know what is wrong with that. I got hurted, but you know first of all why? i didnt expect him to be with me - if you believe it or not - i didnt expect anything from him and he knew that, coz i told him, that i cant make him happy (not becuse i was married before, or i have kids, coz i dont) , thats why i accepted the fact that one day we will be far away from each other. and because i didint expect anything from him, he had no reason to tell me lies - but he did and it wasnt ok. and also - it wasnt my fault. i accepted his choice not to spend life with me and i dont blame him for that. i only blame him that he has no respect for himself (for his kurdishness). if you read my text at the end you should understand what i wrote - that it hurts me that he didnt behave like Kurd.
and dont compare these two situations - coz its a big difference. a lot of differences, that one of them is that he WASNT my boyfriend. i loved him, but it was my privat feeling, when he decided to go away - i didnt try to stop him, i didnt call him or do anything like that.
and i must dissapoint you again - his parents are also not conservative. i talked with his mother, she is great and lovely lady, very kind and very nice. we saw each other over webcam only, the same as some of his cousins and brother in Kurdistan, but i also know a lot of his family members personally, those who are here in england.

so good luck with your malicious talking with me - try your best, maybe you win, who knows?
but one thing i know for sure after your post today (specially after last sentence - by the way, i repeat again - he is not and never been my BOYFRIEND - do you understand that?) - i know for sure that i will never call you "Kak Baris" any more.

What exactly do ya mean by ''i thought you are different person''? Why don't I deserve to explain anything to me?
Okey, I assumed he was Conservative. It's obvious that I was incorrect in my assumption. Actualy I was asking questions and not stating statements because I don't know him.

Okey, fine, yea, ya have the right to share with whoever ya wish. Once again was only asking a question...

After the more detailed info that ya shared with me, it appears I was wrong in thinking he was your boyfriend. There is nothing wrong with your feelings about being hurt at all!

Well, it actualy doesn't disappoint me that his parents aren't Conservative. He is fortunate that his parents are not, imo.

My intentions are not malicious, as I was only confused about info actualy.

[Kubilay]

Where is topic from kulka introduce yourself?

[Kubilay]

I find it so forget what i ask.

[Kubilay]

Kulka canım, you like handsome azertürk man too? )) I not furry but i am hairy. My hair is to the end of my back

[Kulka]

is any reason kubilay for your stupid questions? I am kurdish and i am not interested in any dirty things - whatever you meant by : "you like handsome azertürk man too?" - but at least you stop to pretend you are nice person and you showed your true turkish face. and yes, if i will need a dog i will remember that you are hairy and i will let you know, so you will have a chance to bark at my feet and to bring the stick which i will through for you. thats my last words to you. keep away from me and from kurdish land and kurdish people.

Now you now Baris why i want to stay only among kurdish people? you understand now? coz they dont talk rubbish shit like this poor kubilay andf they dont use my life story agains me like you. and be back to your question or whatever it was - yes i am open mineded, but it doesnt mean that i am open - legged as well.

[Kubilay]

is any reason kubilay for your stupid questions? I am kurdish and i am not interested in any dirty things - whatever you meant by : "you like handsome azertürk man too?" - but at least you stop to pretend you are nice person and you showed your true turkish face. and yes, if i will need a dog i will remember that you are hairy and i will let you know, so you will have a chance to bark at my feet and to bring the stick which i will through for you. thats my last words to you. keep away from me and from kurdish land and kurdish people.

Now you now Baris why i want to stay only among kurdish people? you understand now? coz they dont talk rubbish shit like this poor kubilay andf they dont use my life story agains me like you. and be back to your question or whatever it was - yes i am open mineded, but it doesnt mean that i am open - legged as well.

I think you are nice pretty girl. My questions not stupid. Im not dirty thing. I not pretend to you. I like you so much. I think you are virgin and not open legged.

[Barış]

is any reason kubilay for your stupid questions? I am kurdish and i am not interested in any dirty things - whatever you meant by : "you like handsome azertürk man too?" - but at least you stop to pretend you are nice person and you showed your true turkish face. and yes, if i will need a dog i will remember that you are hairy and i will let you know, so you will have a chance to bark at my feet and to bring the stick which i will through for you. thats my last words to you. keep away from me and from kurdish land and kurdish people.

Now you now Baris why i want to stay only among kurdish people? you understand now? coz they dont talk rubbish shit like this poor kubilay andf they dont use my life story agains me like you. and be back to your question or whatever it was - yes i am open mineded, but it doesnt mean that i am open - legged as well.

Well, what Kubilay actualy said to ya wasn't vulgar, only flirting in my opinion. I think he's only likes ya, and he has difficulty in explaining it to ya. Kubilay needs to improve his English more, but that's between ya and Kubilay regardless of what I think anyway...

I mentioned before that I think that you're a Free Thinker, and as far as I know another word for that is open-minded. I never thought that ya are ''open-legged'' at all. I wasn't actualy using your life story against ya either, but thought you'de have more understanding and compassion toward helen here regardless of her having sex and getting pregnant...
I assumed he was your boyfriend only because ya didn't disagree with Diri when he asked that in your topic in ''Introduce Yourself'', and also since ya moved to another country for him. I apologize for my misunderstanding once again.

[Kulka]

there is NOTHING between me and that turk!!!! - i dont want to have anythinhg to do with that creature and i finish this topic.

this boy was someone special for me - we was together to support each other and to help each other - its something much precious than realationship based on boyfriend-girlfriend. yes i moved to uk because of him mainly, but not only. but mainly - yes. i dont dosagree with Kak Diri, coz it wasnt that much impotrtant how others call what was between me and him - now i correct it, coz it might be misunderstood regarding the subject that we are talking about. And even if he did something wrong about our friendship, i always remember how much he helped me and i am still ready to help him - even if we dont have contact with each other for many months.
and if you dont mind - i would like to stop talking about that, coz it has nothing to do with the subject in this topic.

[Kubilay]

Well, what Kubilay actualy said to ya wasn't vulgar, only flirting in my opinion. I think he's only likes ya, and he has difficulty in explaining it to ya. Kubilay needs to improve his English more, but that's between ya and Kubilay regardless of what I think anyway...

I mentioned before that I think that you're a Free Thinker, and as far as I know another word for that is open-minded. I never thought that ya are ''open-legged'' at all. I wasn't actualy using your life story against ya either, but thought you'de have more understanding and compassion toward helen here regardless of her having sex and getting pregnant...
I assumed he was your boyfriend only because ya didn't disagree with Diri when he asked that in your topic in ''Introduce Yourself'', and also since ya moved to another country for him. I apologize for my misunderstanding once again.

Yes need to improve english very much! I know this. I use Türkçe - ingilizce sözlük . Last night I want to order pizza. My cousins english more bad. He have me call Dominos Pizza to order Pizza. I call and they not understand me. I call 4 time and they not understand. I then give up and no pizza. My cousin not help me improve english cause he speak to me in Turkish. I live in California 5 weeks and my english not even improve.

[Kubilay]

Kulka I also don't want to have anything to do with you. I leave you alone ok.

[Barış]

there is NOTHING between me and that turk!!!! - i dont want to have anythinhg to do with that creature and i finish this topic.

this boy was someone special for me - we was together to support each other and to help each other - its something much precious than realationship based on boyfriend-girlfriend. yes i moved to uk because of him mainly, but not only. but mainly - yes. i dont dosagree with Kak Diri, coz it wasnt that much impotrtant how others call what was between me and him - now i correct it, coz it might be misunderstood regarding the subject that we are talking about. And even if he did something wrong about our friendship, i always remember how much he helped me and i am still ready to help him - even if we dont have contact with each other for many months.
and if you dont mind - i would like to stop talking about that, coz it has nothing to do with the subject in this topic.

I don't mind and I wanna stop this as well.

I'm now wondering what ever happened to Diri, as he hasn't posted here in a long time.

[Barış]

Yes need to improve english very much! I know this. I use Türkçe - ingilizce sözlük . Last night I want to order pizza. My cousins english more bad. He have me call Dominos Pizza to order Pizza. I call and they not understand me. I call 4 time and they not understand. I then give up and no pizza. My cousin not help me improve english cause he speak to me in Turkish. I live in California 5 weeks and my english not even improve.

If ya still wish to order that pizza send me a message in Turkish of what type of pizza ya want. I then will translate it into English for ya with pronunciations.